Period 7 ENGLISH 10 HONORS
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We are going to try something a little bit different today. While you are in the outer circle, you will be discussing the questions digitally, rather than verbally. In the comments area below, please discuss the day 1 questions. To get your full points for today, you must respond at least 5 times, at least two of these should be in the form of an original post, your other comments may be in original posts, or in reply to your peers. Please use text support for your answers. I will be checking your discussion, and you will receive a grade, so please use this space appropriately. Questions for Day 1:
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Damien
4/12/2017 11:09:37 am
Question 8... I'm not to sure why the witches got involved. I think they wanted to see the down fall of Scotland. They knew he wasn't going to be a good ruler, however they did plant the idea in his head
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Georgia Wathen
4/12/2017 11:16:11 am
I agree because the witches influenced him, but did not make him actually do it.
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Damien
4/12/2017 11:20:11 am
Exactly there never told him to kill the king, they just told him he would be the ruler
lizzy
4/12/2017 11:11:17 am
4. The moment Macbeth went crazy is when he murders the servants/ guards. He didn't have any reason to kill them. He murdered Duncan because his wife blackmailed him into it but he was never told to kill them. He did it out of his own guilt.
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Georgia Wathen
4/12/2017 11:18:17 am
I agree because ultimately it was his choice that he acted upon, which Lady Macbeth supported and influenced.
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Hannah
4/12/2017 11:22:02 am
I agree because Macbeth has his own brain. He is the controller of that brain. Yes others can influence and peer pressure the brain....but it was ultimately his doing.
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Jessica
4/12/2017 11:24:24 am
I agree, he panicked and killed innocent people by himself. That would cause anyone to go crazy.
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Damien
4/12/2017 11:12:03 am
Question 13... I think it can be possible for a person to have absolute power and retain sanity. Although I do think it will be difficult. With absolute power you can do anything you want to with no reprecutions. So that can make a person go crazy.
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sydney
4/12/2017 11:36:03 am
I agree, as long as you stay a good person and do nothing bad, there should not be a ready to go insane.
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Conor j.
4/12/2017 11:15:43 am
Question 10: I would not consider it a healthy relationship at all because you should know what's going on with your wife especially if they are suicidal but when they do kill themselves you should show more concern than what he did during page 95
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Lizzy
4/12/2017 11:30:43 am
I agree he should have shown at least some emotion when he heard about her death. However when he reflected on it later on he did become suicidal so there has to be some affection in their relationship but that doesn't make it healthy.
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Damien
4/12/2017 11:16:08 am
Question 12... Macbeth can relate to Kim-Jong-un. They are both rulers that can do what ever they want. How ever, Kim-Jong-un came to power from his family line. Macbeth had to kill lots of people to stay in power. Kim-Jong-un can kill people whenever he pleases, and so could Macbeth. Another difference is Macbeth isn't Asian and Kim-Jong-un is.
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Hannah
4/12/2017 11:24:01 am
I agree with this, although the comparison is strange. Both leaders are both alike in there murderous thoughts and thirst for power.
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Katelyn(Scotty)
4/12/2017 11:36:55 am
Damien I polietly agree with you , yet I have some rather have issues with your explanation. Number one, we all know that Macbeth isn't Asian. If he didn't pay attention to the witches he would eventually get the throne because Duncan considered a loyal dear subject.
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maddie
4/12/2017 11:17:39 am
question 2: if this would have taken place in a modern setting, how would things have been different? would macbeth be able to get away with murder for so long?
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Georgia Wathen
4/12/2017 11:20:42 am
I agree in modern times it would be more difficult to pull off such a task because of media and other means.
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Conor j.
4/12/2017 11:25:57 am
I feel like it would be easier for Macbeth to kill and get away with it but not maintain his rule as people would revolt but may have little to no evidence
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Hannah
4/12/2017 11:26:12 am
I agree, with the connections we have today, plus the technological advantages we have. Macbeth wouldn't even have made it past his first murder.
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Lexiey
4/12/2017 11:38:44 am
I agree with this to, in modern day nothing goes unnoticed and it would not be as easy to escape the country, kill without being seen, act insane without being questioned .
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Damien
4/12/2017 11:19:21 am
Question...10 at the start of the play Macbeth and lady Macbeths relationship is healthy and strong. They were close and would work together. I think that changed when the witches put the idea in his head that he would one day be king. They both became power hungry and began to not work together after he killed Duncan.
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sydney
4/12/2017 11:19:35 am
question 7, after reading, who do you think is to blame for all the murders? Why? has your opinion changed on this since the beginning of the play?
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Katelyn(Scotty)
4/12/2017 11:26:12 am
Sydney, do you personally think that Lady Macbeth may have influenced him to do it? Think about it, she's preying on Macbeth to do it. She mocks him and calls him a coward and saying this is a chance of a lifetime. Wouldn't you agree?
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sydney
4/12/2017 11:27:37 am
no.
maddie
4/12/2017 11:30:19 am
she could have said whatever she wanted but that doesn't mean he was forced to do it. she could have said don't do and he could have still done it and she could have said do it and that doesn't mean he would have done it.
lizzy
4/12/2017 11:34:31 am
I both agree and disagree. Duncan's murder is not his fault his wife guilt tripped him into it. However everyone else is Macbeth fault he killed those people because he felt they were a danger to the power he had gotten. They didn't need to die Macbeth killed them for no reason.
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Lexiey
4/12/2017 11:36:44 am
I agree with this, lady Macbeth may have influenced his thought of killing a little but ultimately it was all based off his decision because it was his chance to rule on the line not hers so her thoughts wouldn't matter.
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Conor j.
4/12/2017 11:21:31 am
Question 7: I feel as if lady Macbeth is to blame as she has pressured Macbeth into killing Duncan. And studies show that a lot of killers after they kill one they can't stop. They enjoy the rush and adrenaline. So once Macbeth killed one he couldn't stop.
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sydney
4/12/2017 11:30:13 am
that may be true about killers, but Macbeth kept feeling guilty after each kill. where as murders do not feel guilt, they get pleasure out of killing whereas Macbeth did not.
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Jessica
4/12/2017 11:30:30 am
I agree. Macbeth tried to get out of killing the king many times but lady Macbeth wouldn't let him.
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Jessica
4/12/2017 11:21:50 am
15. I think she feels guilt at the end because more people died then she had planned or wanted. They were innocent too. She also has had more time to think about the things she has done, and she's afraid of getting caught. On page 85 is an example of her and her husband being afraid of getting caught. "What need we fear who knows it, when none can call our power to account..."
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Lizzy
4/12/2017 11:37:25 am
I agree I think she killed herself because she realized that because of her, her husband is now insane and a psychopathic murder.
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Katelyn(Scotty)
4/12/2017 11:22:03 am
"With power comes great responsibility." So said the speaker, but at the cost of power comes pressure from the people, the world and government. It's why many past presidents suffered from severe stress, anxiety and many health issues. We all know the price that comes from being in power. Not everyone is suited for power. For example, on page 43 act 3 number 34, "We hear that the prices, people murder hiding in England and Ireland." He saying that many kill for power, money or revenge. Yet, however as Macbeth is ashamed of the hanis act that he has committed, he feels morally above the law almost invincible
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Conor j.
4/12/2017 11:28:52 am
What question number?
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sydney
4/12/2017 11:22:41 am
question 13, is it possible for a person to have absolute power and retain their sanity?
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sydney
4/12/2017 11:27:03 am
^i accidentally hit submit and I was not done.
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maddie
4/12/2017 11:33:22 am
i agree. from what's we saw of duncan, he seemed like a good leader, and his head was in the right place. he had no thoughts like macbeth had to kill to get where he wanted.
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lexiey maynard
4/12/2017 11:23:00 am
#6, I believe that Macbeths death was based off of fate instead of freewill, because he thought that he was invincible because the witches/ apparitions told him he couldn't be killed by anyone born of a women. and at the time Macbeth did not know that a sea section was really a thing and it wasn't popular either. So fate played a big role by choosing Macduff and his family to be the one that Macbeth goes after because in the end Macduff was the one person who could kill Macbeth because he was not born of a women.
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Georgia Wathen
4/12/2017 11:25:21 am
13. I think it is possible to have power and maintain sanity, but it depends on the individual, their mental health, and their will power as well.
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Jessica
4/12/2017 11:34:22 am
I agree, it depends on their morals and how strong minded the person is.
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Kyra
4/12/2017 11:34:32 am
Someone with good, stable mental health could also become corrupted by power within time.
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Anna
4/12/2017 11:25:35 am
Question 8:
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Lizzy
4/12/2017 11:26:43 am
6. Macbeths death was a cause of freewill. Macbeth didn't want to live anymore anyway but he thought it was impossible for him to die. His wife is dead his best friend murdered and he is hated by everyone and Macduff killed cause he wanted to. He felt it was the only way to get justice for his murdered family. He choose to kill Macbeth just as Macbeth wanted to die.
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Anna
4/12/2017 11:36:27 am
I think the death of Macbeth was fate at that point of the play because of the things he did was a cause of his death. If he didn't kill the king, banquo, or macduff family all the things would not have caused him to die. His death was a consequence of his actions.
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maddie
4/12/2017 11:26:54 am
question 6: was macbeth's death a cause of fate or of freewill? why?
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Lexiey
4/12/2017 11:31:32 am
I believe the death was fate because the witches told him that he couldn't be killed by anyone born of a women for a reason. so when he met someone that was born of a C-section he knew it was his time to die.
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sydney
4/12/2017 11:33:28 am
I agree, fate brough Macduff to Macbeth to kill him because he was born a c-section. However, Macduff killed Macbeth because he just wanted to
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Jessica
4/12/2017 11:27:51 am
10. I consider their relationship to be strong. They stick with each other through it all and try to support each other, but it is definitely not a healthy relationship. They murdered people together and quickly go crazy. But they still loved each other to the end.
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Kyra
4/12/2017 11:32:37 am
Could you prove they still loved through it all?
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Kyra
4/12/2017 11:28:34 am
3. In my views, it appears to seem Shakespeare is stating females are weaker, less valuable, possibly less important. Males are naturally better fit for challenges and more capable of doing things a woman can't. In the soliloquy of Lady Macbeth, she states "Come, you spirits that tend on mortal thoughts, under me here, and fail me from the crown to the toe top-full of direst cruelty. Make thick my blood." She may feel that she can do everything herself, but Macbeth challenges her a bit. She is a woman who is not capable of such a thing.
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Lexiey Maynard
4/12/2017 11:29:03 am
Question 4: Macbeth becomes truly crazy when he murders Macduff's family. Yes, he may have killed the servants without being told to but at the time that is what was needed because he may have gotten caught cause the blame wasn't being put on the servants. But with him killing Macduff's family there was no need for that, and to raid his castle. Macduff hadn't really did anything to Macbeth but after killing his family that was taken to far.
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maddie
4/12/2017 11:35:52 am
i agree. there was no reason why macbeth had to kill macduff's family. they didn't do anything wrong.
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Ashley D.
4/12/2017 11:36:37 am
Personally, I feel as though he only really started to go crazy after he saw Banquo's ghost at the gathering. It was the first major scene of his descent into madness with the guests wondering what was up with him and Lady
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Anna
4/12/2017 11:29:41 am
Question 13
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Ashley D.
4/12/2017 11:29:50 am
3. I feel as though Shakespeare is making multiple statements about the role of gender in Macbeth that are emphasized both during his time and the modern era. One of them would be the stereotypical "Women must be gentle, quiet, and nurturing. Men must be aggressive, assertive, and dominant," emphasizing gender roles typically expected for each gender. In Lady Macbeth's Unsex Me soliloquy, she tells the spirits to "Stop up the access and passage to remorse," (1.5.34). Women are often expected to be delicate and emotional compared to men who aren't supposed to show any sign of emotions to emphasize their masculinity. Lady Macbeth is asking to be stripped of all things tha make her a woman in mind to feel more like a man. If one really wanted to, they could make the interpretation of her trying to break the glass ceiling for gender roles. If it weren't for the pressure to live up to societal expectations, she might not have felt the need to summon demonic forces to gain the strength needed to carry on such a deed of murder.
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Georgia Wathen
4/12/2017 11:31:41 am
15. Lady Macbeth might feel guilt because now she sees the results of Macbeth's actions. In the beginning, she was just wanting to fulfill her dream or desire to be queen, but not everything thing you dream is the same in reality. Now that the crime has been committed, she feels bad for influencing her husband to murder individuals.
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Anna
4/12/2017 11:39:07 am
I agree, sooner or later guilt always get come to us and in Lady Macbeth point she had a small part of all the deaths that took place
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Melodie Watkins
4/24/2017 08:21:50 pm
I agree. She also probably knew deep down that what they were doing was wrong and selfish, and, like Anna said, guilt catches up to us.
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N'Iyjere
4/25/2017 11:14:58 am
I agree it all eventually caught up with her if I'd say so myself. You can't just go around killing people and expect it not to catch up with you.
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Hannah
4/12/2017 11:31:48 am
Question 3: I'm not to sure how Lady Macbeth's suicide is played into the whole gender role thing. However, Shakespeare has pushed gender roles in a lot of his work and often ends up making it a confusing mess at times. This play is an example, Lady Macbeth is one who is trying to defy her own motherly, protective, instincts by praying to evil spirits to "un-sex" her. Call that confused.
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Hannah
4/12/2017 11:35:36 am
Question 13: I believe if someone were to have their mind set on straight they could accomplish a peaceful power holder. King Duncan for example ruled Scotland with a good mindset, and he didn't go crazy, but it's when the mind becomes desperate for power that essentially ruins your train of thought.
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Melodie Watkins
4/24/2017 07:49:09 pm
Question 2:
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Melodie Watkins
4/24/2017 07:58:47 pm
Question 10:
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N'Iyjere
4/25/2017 11:12:18 am
I agree after all they did stick with each other through it all. Which means they needed each other in order to carry out all there crazy plans, but it was very unhealthy
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Melodie Watkins
4/24/2017 08:09:05 pm
Question 16:
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Melodie Watkins
4/24/2017 08:18:01 pm
Question 13:
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N'Iyjere
4/25/2017 11:07:43 am
Question 10- the relationship between the two was very unhealthy. How can you force the person you love to kill someone thinking it will benefit you. Knowing you have to live with all the guilt, which makes your life miserable. By the end of the story you could really tell it was unhealthy because he didn't really care that she died.
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