Period 7 ENGLISH 10 HONORS
In the comments section, please discuss one of the below questions. Then, respond to two of your peer's responses.
Your answers should be quality responses of at least 5 thoughtful sentences. Please make sure to respond to peer responses by midnight Monday (4/3). Peer responses must add to the discussion. Responses such as "I agree" or "that is stupendous" will not receive cre
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Logan Riffey
4/3/2017 11:14:55 am
Macbeth's mind is going out of control. I believe that since he believes he has control over his fate, that he'll regret or look back on his actions with dismay. One piece of evidence that supports my claim is the scene in which Macbeth sees Banquo's ghost among the patrons of the banquet. His hallucination was caused by his PTSD (?) like response to having his best friend murdered in cold blood. He feels regret for his actions, but only subconsciously. Lady Macbeth, I believe, has been a nut from the start. Her psychotic tendencies seem to have come from childhood. I mean, our first look at her was that of a power-hungry, possessive wife that insisted Macbeth claim the throne for himself... only in a violent manner. Of course, I feel there to be a small plot hole when Lady Macbeth is completely powerless over Macbeth's decision to kill Banquo- whether she was with or against the idea. Her personality at the beginning completely contradicts herself now. The human mind is truly a fascinating piece of art.
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Hannah
4/3/2017 11:20:22 am
I agree full on with your theory. Macbeth is becoming more insane as the story proceeds.
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Nik
4/3/2017 11:23:07 am
I agree that Macbeth has been going crazy and who knows what will happen at the end of the play.
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Ashley D.
4/3/2017 11:26:55 am
I agree with your observations as to the events that happened so far and how it goes with Macbeth's mental state. Though the PTSD theory seems plausible, I'd find some sort of schizotypal disorder to be more fitting as PTSD tends to come about as the result of witnessing or being apart of a traumatic event. He was part of the planning of Banquo's murder, but it seems as though he's, at most, negatively affected by it through guilt.
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Katelyn(Scotty) K.
4/3/2017 11:29:45 am
Logan, I love the fact that you incorporated the fact that he lashed out was because of his P.S.D. Do you think that maybe lady maybe using Macbeth as a pawn to seize his power?
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Brendan R.
4/3/2017 04:27:42 pm
Using the "Banquo's Ghost" scene was a perfect example of Macbeth feeling guiltly.
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Brendan R.
4/3/2017 04:30:17 pm
"guilty"
conor
4/3/2017 11:17:14 am
fate is not to blame for macbeths actions. he controls his actions and is responsible for them. the movie versions emphasize on fate. you can tell because the witches being somewhere in almost every scene.
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Hannah
4/3/2017 11:18:33 am
I will agree that the script and the movie both have very different pov's about how fate plays a role into all of this.
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Logan
4/3/2017 11:21:22 am
That is a quality observation, Conner. I agree with your statement in that Macbeth is 100% in control over his actions. The witches do appear in widespread in the movie we had watched in class. If I were you, though, I would tag along another sentence possibly supporting your claim that Macbeth has control over his own destiny/actions, that is if you want a decent grade..
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conor
4/3/2017 11:26:23 am
with macbeth having free will in the play this is evident when he kills banquo as he chose to do that 100% by himself
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Georgia Wathen
4/3/2017 11:27:44 am
I agree because he is responsible for his own actions, therefore should be held accountable for them.
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lexiey maynard
4/3/2017 11:33:43 am
I completely agree with this statement the movie makes it seem as if the witches are what is causing Macbeth to do these evil killings, but they are not the ones who put the knife in his hands or helped him during the killings so the movie and the script totally show different point of views as Hannah said.
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Hannah
4/3/2017 11:17:23 am
Macbeth killed Duncan, short and sweet. The reason why it is his fault is because, ultimately it was his decision whether to go through with it or not. Which leads into the whole freewill theory. since Macbeth had the choice to murder his friends, needless to say it was all in his mind, which is slowly breaking down. Gradually, you also see that he is becoming more independent, and the isolation with his mind is not a good idea, because it's tainted with murderous thoughts.
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Jessica
4/3/2017 11:35:34 am
I agree with you, Macbeth is his own person and mind. He made his own decision, no one else.
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lexiey Maynard
4/3/2017 11:36:40 am
When Macbeth heard the news about becoming thane of Glamis and king he was wondering whether to believe the witches or not, but after being named the Thane of Glamis he trusted what the witches said. From than on the idea of being powerful and wealthy cause him to continue. So you are completely correct on this comment.
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conor (again)
4/3/2017 11:20:48 am
in some cases however you can blame fate in the book. like with how hecate wants to manipulate macbeth. and how he doesnt want to kill duncan but is pressured into it
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Katelyn(Scotty) K
4/3/2017 11:30:55 am
I loved that observation that you made Conor!
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Nik
4/3/2017 11:21:36 am
I think that Macbeth is going crazy. He is feeling so much guilt from killing Banquo that he even saw his ghost at the dinner. Also, when he was semi sane, he let Lady Macbeth control him, but now he has become more independent.
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Logan
4/3/2017 11:24:41 am
While it is plausible to infer that Lady Macbeth had control over Macbeth, I'd prefer to say she had a great influence over his decisions. Macbeth was a brave man, yet weak in the mind, though he was not stupid (or is he..?)
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Georgia Wathen
4/3/2017 11:29:04 am
I agree with Logan because even though she influenced him, he is responsible for his own actions.
Katelyn(Scotty) K.
4/3/2017 11:27:24 am
Nik, how do you think Macbeth is going crazy? Do you really think he feels guilty about killing Banquo? Think about the movie when he gave the speech and how he acted with his body language.
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Ashley D.
4/3/2017 11:21:54 am
2. I personally feel as though Macbeth is going insane with quite a few factors tying into it. Early on in the play, Macbeth was as typical as one could be with stable morals and undying loyalty to Duncan and his fellow nobles. However, once Macbeth learns of the prophecy from the three witches, he began to have thoughts of killing the king to earn power which greatly disturbed him.
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conor
4/3/2017 11:23:40 am
yes i agree that macbeth is going insane
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Elizabeth
4/3/2017 11:24:25 am
I don't believe the whole thing is Macbeth fault. I will agree that most of what has happened is indeed his fault but all this started because of both the witches and Lady Macbeth. If the witches had just keep their mouths shut none of this would have happened and Lady Macbeth should have just minded her own business. If she hadn't encouraged it Macbeth never would have harmed Duncan and the Macbeth wouldn't have gone homicidal. However passed the death of Duncan I believe the blame does fall to Macbeth. He was never told to commit anymore murders and they weren't necessary for him to gain the power he sought.
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Jessica
4/3/2017 11:31:05 am
I agree, if Lady Macbeth hadn't pushed Macbeth to kill the king, he probably wouldn't have done it.
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Katelyn (Scotty) K.
4/3/2017 11:25:15 am
"With great power comes great responsibility," said an old man,but Macbeth has grown to abuse and violate that power. He's been pressured into becoming the man in power by his ruthless manipulating wife and fate her self. It is this power and corruption that is slowly driving him to become less and less self aware that he's losing his freewill posing himself as " god" one would say. Lady Macbeth is highly sneaky and coy with her emotions and actions. With Macbeth as her pawn she could easily blame the death of Duncan and Banquo ,but she doesn't (yet) because like a game of chest, all the men will be gone and slandered.
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Georgia Wathen
4/3/2017 11:26:11 am
I do not believe fate is to blame for the actions of Macbeth. Even if the witches are making him want to become king, ultimately, it is Macbeth who is responsible for his own actions. He could choose not to act upon his desires to become king, but still chooses to act upon them. Macbeth is a strong, powerful leader, but is not strong willed and does whatever he is told by his wife. In other words, he knows right from wrong, but still kills the king.
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sydney
4/3/2017 11:31:05 am
I agree, Macbeth wants everything even though he knows it is wrong, but he is willing to do what ever it takes.
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Joey A
4/3/2017 11:27:35 am
Free will is how the characters create the story. Fate is the things that they cannot control. Free will is the choices and actions the characters make. Macbeth has free will and he could control weather he killed people or not
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Finnegan Hall
4/3/2017 11:32:38 am
I agree. Macbeth could have chose to kill the people or not, but he chose to kill them.
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maddie
4/3/2017 11:34:52 am
i agree. macbeth had control over his actions when he killed duncan, the guards, and banquo.
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sydney
4/3/2017 11:35:54 am
I agree, Macbeth had full control over his actions in killing King Duncan, the guards, and Banquo. There was no need to kill them but he felt threatened by them so he wanted them gone.
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Jessica
4/3/2017 11:27:50 am
Q.2 I believe both are happening. Macbeth is going crazy, and the witches are messing with him. He feels quilt on his own, but the witches are making him see hallucinations, which makes his paranoia worse. Without the witches I don't think he would of seen the hallucinations, and without the hallucination of the dagger, he might have not killed the king, which is not what the witches want.
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sydney
4/3/2017 11:27:58 am
I think guilt is starting to take over Macbeth and that is why he is going crazy. He has killed four people so far and he has killed all four of them for no reason, he just wanted to make sure he had it his way instead of letting fate do its thing. Lady Macbeth has yet to kill anyone so she does not have guilt if any at all. It was her idea in the first place to kill King Duncan and then convinced Macbeth to kill him. However, Lady Macbeth never laid a finger on Duncan. Lady Macbeth has not had visions of ghosts or has freaked out like Macbeth has.
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Finnegan Hall
4/3/2017 11:31:29 am
I agree. Macbeth is starting to feel extremely guilty for what he has done.
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maddie
4/3/2017 11:33:33 am
i agree. macbeth is going crazy because of guilt, and lady macbeth doesn't feel much at all.
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Brendan R.
4/3/2017 04:20:19 pm
I agree. Macbeth's actions are to blame for the murder. All Lady Macbeth did was come up with the plan.
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Anna Huestis
4/3/2017 11:29:56 am
The death of King Duncan, his best friend is the responsibility of Macbeth and it was Macbeth's willingness to kill the king. Fate is not to blame because as humans we will always will have the ability to control what we do and letting us have the power of free will. Macbeth should also be the one to be fully blamed for the death of the king however if in today's world Lady Macbeth would also be charged for the crime. Macbeth still should be the one to be fully blamed for the murder. Fate does not control us but we control it, we all have complete control over ourselves and we should take the responsibility that comes with our actions. In the movie it mostly shows the idea of Macbeth controlling himself, however it does give that sense of a super natural power. The witches do show up throughout the movie however they do not do anything physically. they simply stand by. All of the things that had happened is in the control of Macbeth.
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Finnegan Hall
4/3/2017 11:30:34 am
I don't believe that Macbeth is completely to blame for the deaths in the play. Ever since the witches spoke to him, he has been obsessed with becoming king. He also believes that he can control fate itself. All Lady Macbeth has done is to encourage Macbeth and add to his insanity. At first when the witches spoke to him, he reasoned with himself that there was no rational reason to kill Duncan. However, overtime through Lady Macbeth's pestering he decided to kill Duncan and the servants. I believe that the witches, Lady Macbeth, and Macbeth are all equally to blame.
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Damien
4/4/2017 10:59:20 am
I agree. Macbeth is going crazy and he wants power. So he is killing to get it and to keep it.
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maddie
4/3/2017 11:32:29 am
i think guilt is making macbeth go crazy. he never wanted to actually kill anyone in the first place, but lady macbeth made him think he wanted to. now he has killed four people and he will probably kill more because he wants more power. i don't think lady macbeth feels as guilty as macbeth does, but i think she might be regretting the way everything played out. she isn't seeing ghosts like macbeth is, but i think she most likely wishes things went smoother.
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Melodie Watkins
4/4/2017 09:00:13 pm
She could also be comparing herself to Macbeth and his hallucinations, and hoping that she doesn't end up as weak in the mind as him if she doesn't let herself succumb to much guilt.
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Brendan R.
4/3/2017 04:17:54 pm
I personally think that it is not fate, but Macbeth's actions that are to blame for the murders in the play. Even though Lady Macbeth decided that killing King Duncan was the best way to get to the throne, it was Macbeth that actually went through with the plan. An example of free will in the play is when Macbeth told Lady Macbeth he wasn't going to go through with their plan. He could have just not listened to her and decide he wasn't going to. Instead, he let her persuade him.
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Damien
4/4/2017 10:58:30 am
I agree. Macbeth is the main reason to blame for the people's death. Not the witches or fate
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Melodie Watkins
4/4/2017 08:56:00 pm
I also agree. His free will was shown trying to defy Lady Macbeth at first, and, though it is hard to do, if he had been a bit more persistent in his own opinion, he would not have gone through with the murder. Perhaps the fate had predicted that he would be persuaded, but if it is possible to change fate by pure determination in situations like this, then I'd like to think that there could have been another outcome.
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Damien
4/4/2017 10:57:37 am
I think Macbeth is to blame. The witches put the idea in his head that he would be king. He was the one who took what the witches said to another level by wanting to kill the king. The witches said he would be king but not how. So Macbeth is to blame for the deaths of the people in the play.
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Melodie Watkins
4/4/2017 08:49:24 pm
I believe Macbeth is ‘going crazy,’ and that it is most likely not due to the supernatural (which would be influenced by the witches) plaguing him with guilt. Rather, he is plaguing himself with guilt to the point that he cannot distinguish between reality and imaginary scenarios or hallucinations in times of extreme anxiety/worry. Both times he has gone ‘crazy’ were when he saw the bloody dagger and Banquo’s ghost; events that were just before or just after a game-changing development (murder) that could turn out very poorly for him if others were to find out. He knows that after committing these crimes, he would need to adhere to them to avoid punishment, humiliation, or more, and so he understandably becomes unbearably stressed for a period of time surrounding them. He most likely also knows that, deep down, what he is doing is wrong, and so this pent up guilt coupled with the high-stress situations produce hallucinations that seem amazingly lifelike.
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