PD 3 ENGLISH 10 HONORS
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We are going to try something a little bit different today. While you are in the outer circle, you will be discussing the questions digitally, rather than verbally. In the comments area below, please discuss the day 1 questions. To get your full points for today, you must respond at least 5 times, at least two of these should be in the form of an original post, your other comments may be in original posts, or in reply to your peers. Please use text support for your answers. I will be checking your discussion, and you will receive a grade, so please use this space appropriately. Questions for Day 1:
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Colton
4/12/2017 04:59:03 am
#4 Macbeth becomes truly crazy when he kills Banquo. He has finally turned into a murdering machine and he can't stop himself to stay as King. When he sees his ghost, it just shows how crazy he truly is.
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Colton
4/12/2017 05:01:44 am
#6 Macbeth's death was a cause of free will. If he wouldn't have killed all of those people, no one would have been out to kill him.
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Colton
4/12/2017 05:04:31 am
#7 The witches are to blame for more than what I thought in the very beginning, but I wouldn't blame them for everything. If they wouldn't have told Macbeth about becoming king and all of that, he wouldn't have done what he did to get there. Macbeth though could've just not listened to them. He had a choice to do what he was doing, and he chose the wrong way to get there.
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Ryan Williams
4/12/2017 06:43:51 am
#1: things would have been more hidden from Macbeth instead of her telling Macbeth so he could help her from the start. She would have killed Duncan and then after his death she would have told Macbeth of what she did instead of having him help her from the start.
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Shelby Silveous
4/12/2017 06:43:57 am
1. I believe if the witches had gone to lady Macbeth then Macbeth would have been killed. Lady Macbeth is power hungry therefore, after she used him to kill her way to the top, she would have killed him to be queen.
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Bethany
4/12/2017 07:00:31 am
I don't think that Lady Macbeth would have killed Macbeth at the end because whether Macbeth is alive or not she could still be the queen and would still have that power. And at that time I don't think that the people would be okay with there not being a king and only having a woman rule therefore she would probably lose all of her power if he had died.
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Samantha Fodor
4/12/2017 06:45:27 am
#10 In the beginning we see them have a very healthy relationship. But when Macbeth goes around killing people, we start to see there relationship start to go down hill. Then Lady Macbeth goes down hill and starts to feel the guilt of killing Duncan. Even Lady Macbeth kills herself or so we think that's what happened. Macbeth isn't even affected by the death of his "dearest partner in greatness". So this shows that by the end of the play, they really don't have a relationship at all.
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Charli Sween
4/12/2017 06:57:28 am
I completely agree. They went from healthy to really unhealthy really quickly and then they really had no relationship at all.
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Charli Sween
4/12/2017 06:45:40 am
#1 I think if the witches told Lady Macbeth instead of MacBeth, then things would have ended a lot worse than they did. Lady Macbeth is way more power hungry than MacBeth and she is very greedy and I think that she will do anything to get power and the title.
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Boni Macias
4/23/2017 03:06:11 pm
I have to say I don't agree with you on that one because she did feel guilt at the end of the play and killed herself. What I believe would happen is that she would gain the power like she did and would end up feeling the same guilt she did but 10x worse and again kill herself then passing down the throne to someone else.
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Donnie
4/12/2017 06:46:11 am
#4 I believe Macbeth became truly crazy or at least started to lost the most sanity during act 3, when he murcdered his best friend. This is because the it show that he will do anything for power, and that he is blood thirsty. It also show how be isn't afraid to kill anymore; because at the begin the thoughts of murder terrified him.
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ryan williams
4/12/2017 06:51:47 am
In act three at the celebration dinner with the closest members of his rule surrounding him he still openly showed insane acts. He yelled out in the open at something that wasn't there so if you view that from one of the people at dinners eyes. This man that is directing your country to glory is going insane. He is crazy but if you want to live to see another day you cannot say anything.
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Donnie
4/12/2017 06:55:08 am
I agree that was and extremely crazy act but when he driven to murder causes it the most insane act. when you start seeing ghost and yelling at a dinner that doesn't make it any better for your mental support, I think guilt is what drove him truly insane though.
Charli Sween
4/12/2017 06:58:22 am
I agree, I think that once he killed his best friend the guilt really got to him and he just finally lost it.
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Shelby Silveous
4/12/2017 06:46:45 am
6. I believe Macbeth's death was fate. Yes he caused some of it, however it was the witches that gave him the idea of being King. He made himself think he was invincible, when he really was not.
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Ryan Williams
4/12/2017 06:54:34 am
Macbeth's death wasn't going to be told directly to him but it still lingered in the fine print of the prophecies. For example in scene one he was told by Banquo that these demons would tell half truths to hurt them and in the end that is what kills Macbeth.
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Alicyn
4/12/2017 06:47:09 am
4#
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Samantha Fodor
4/12/2017 06:51:02 am
We do see Macbeth going really crazy also after killing Banquo. It really killed him on the inside.
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Boni Macias
4/23/2017 02:59:02 pm
I believe what you're saying, but I also believe what truly made Macbeth go crazy is his first encounter with the witches. My reason being is that he had never had murderous thought about killing the king until then, so I do believe that was the beginning of him going crazy.
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Ryan Williams
4/12/2017 06:48:22 am
#4: Macbeth has truly become crazy after the death of Banquo. He knew he had his befriend killed and couldn't live with the guilt of his death and continued to see his ghost as a formation of guilt and grief for the things he has done and the pain he has caused. Even though in the end the pain that he caused had come to be more painful for him than anyone else.
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Donnie
4/12/2017 07:03:02 am
I agree completely but I also had to add that when he started yelling at witches for answer and started killing off friend and yelling at ghost is crazy, honestly other than act one he completely crazy for most of the play.
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Samantha Fodor
4/12/2017 06:48:33 am
#13 Maybe some people are use to having power and keep their sanity. But, if you are not use to having all the power you might go a little crazy. As we see with Macbeth, once he got the power he just thought that he could go and kill everyone that does something wrong.
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Ryan Williams
4/12/2017 06:57:37 am
Throughout history men and woman have held endless power and remained sane and content with their metal stability. I don't necessarily think we can compare real life to the circumstances to a Shakespearean play because he does not go along the natural lines of what us right and what's wrong which is why he is considered one of the best play writes to ever live. It is impossible to see a connection between the rule of people in real life and Macbeth yet there have been some rulers who have been consumed by power but not guilt and greed.
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Charli Sween
4/12/2017 06:49:08 am
#10 I think that MacBeth and Lady MacBeth have a very unhealthy relationship. Lady MacBeth is very controlling do deceptive and MacBeth just lets her tell him what to do and guilt him in to doing things he doesn't actually want to do.
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Samantha Fodor
4/12/2017 06:53:09 am
By the end of the play, we see him not even affected but the fact that she has died. It's like he gave up on their relationship.
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Alicyn
4/12/2017 06:58:04 am
Their relationship wasn't healthy because after he had told her about how they would become king and queen if they killed Duncan, she was controlling and kept degrading him if he wouldn't do it. He also did not care about her death.
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Sav
4/12/2017 06:49:18 am
#3-
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Shelby Silveous
4/12/2017 06:52:50 am
I agree, gender roles were a large issue back then. However I believe that she wanted to be an athority figure so bad, she knew she couldn't, in thus she committed suicide.
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Sav
4/12/2017 06:56:13 am
I do not believe that she necessarily did it to be an authority figure. Gender roles had a big portion that was devoted to the husband, or man. I believe that everything she did was for him, never once did she say " I will be queen". It was always you will be king. She thought of a way to get him into power, tried to make him a "better man" although the message got lost somewhere.
Alicyn
4/12/2017 07:02:49 am
I do agree that the gender rolls played a huge role, and how she broke that to become the "man" to get what was best for them. Once she had gotten what she wanted she stopped and guilt took over her, thus her death because she was not "healthy" enough to stop Macbeth
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Shelby Silveous
4/12/2017 06:49:34 am
13. To a certain extent, power can be held without going insane, however, I believe that you cannot stay the same person you were before you received the power. An example is when a soldier goes to war and they come back with PTSD. It is impossible to stay the same after a dramatic change.
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Donnie
4/12/2017 06:52:31 am
#10 I don't believe Anything about them could be considered truly health. Especially they relationship, at the began there were healthy and happy. They couldnt be separated and were great together but as the play progress you see them weakening, as you saw Macbeth started tell her less. Eventually she ended up killing herself.
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Sav
4/12/2017 06:53:20 am
#6-
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Charli Sween
4/12/2017 06:54:21 am
#6 I think MacBeth's death was fate, I think after he killed Duncan his fate was set and nothing could be changed.
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Samantha Fodor
4/12/2017 06:56:07 am
I agree with you, We all knew that the gulit was going to catch up the him causing him to commit suicide.
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Alicyn
4/12/2017 06:54:42 am
#15
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Shelby Silveous
4/12/2017 06:56:59 am
4. Some people would say that Macbeth truly went insane when he killed the king, but I believe that he went crazy at the banquet hall. Macbeth began to see the ghost of his best friend , Banquo, after he murdered him. Macbeth began to feel guilt and worrisome that he has done wrong, but in the next act, he is fine and ready to kill again.
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Alicyn
4/12/2017 07:06:20 am
I believe when he saw the dagger he was slowly going away from sane to insane, because he was talking to it, it showed his real dagger, and it was pointing to Duncan's room. However his insanity does go up once he sees Banquo.
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Donnie
4/12/2017 06:59:13 am
#15 I have a weird theory about lady Macbeth guilt. I think the main reason she feels guilt and started losing sanity was because of what her husband had turned into. Guilty because she replaced a good king with a power hungry terrifying man. She lost her power, her sanity, and her husband.
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Boni Macias
4/23/2017 03:02:58 pm
I do agree with what you are saying. That may be one of the main reasons she was losing her sanity because they did kill a good king for selfish reasons and replaced him with a tyrant.
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Sav
4/12/2017 07:04:19 am
#12-
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Alicyn
4/12/2017 07:10:07 am
I agree with you, that he isn't like Hilter. Macbeth is a tyrant, due to his ways of ruling, but he did kill to get to the top unlike Hilter.
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Boni Macias
4/23/2017 02:41:38 pm
I do believe someone can have absolute power and still control their sanity. My main example would be King Louis XIV of France. He is the definition of absolute monarchy and power, and also a great example of retaining control of your sanity while having all the power. My reasoning being is although he has this large amount of power he still did what was best for this people. And yes he was very materialistic, as like any other king for example he built Versailles, King Louis XIV made the French empire we now know today.
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Boni Macias
4/23/2017 02:45:16 pm
#13
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Boni Macias
4/23/2017 02:55:43 pm
#15 I believe Lady Macbeth in the beginning was craving power and felt as if she needed it. She was so power hungry she was willing to do anything to gain it, like willing to kill her own king. And now when she finally gained the power she was craving and the fact that her husband and herself were now murderers she could not bare it.
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