PD 2 AP ENGLISH LANGUAGE
If you have a twitter, please remember to reach out and thank Jay Heinrichs for skyping into class today. Tweet a message of insight and thanks to @JayHeinrichs.
Reflect on our time with Thank You For Arguing. Answer at least 1 of these discussion questions in the below space.
Your response should be THOUGHTFUL. It should be at least 4 sentences long. Please complete your response by Friday midnight. You do not need to respond to peer comments for this assignment.
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Hannah
9/6/2017 06:43:08 pm
The way Mr. Heinrichs defined rhetoric really opened my eyes, and helped me understand what it is exactly. Him describing it as the emphasis some words have, that affect your opponents stand point, made me make my own connections, and fully understand the art. I described it as the connotation that some words have, or power words so to speak, and he seemed to agree with my own opinion, and said he learned something new. So, I guess we both learned something today.
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Anna Berwanger
9/7/2017 09:32:33 am
I found the Skype discussion to be really interesting and it definitely put a face to the writing, giving a better idea of his perspective and what he was writing about. I do agree that rhetoric should be taught more widely around schools in the nation, because not only would people be able to speak more fluently, but it may also help with mannerisms when speaking or having an argument. Many people get into fights rather than arguing, and by teaching rhetoric it would create more respect between the two speakers. Rhetoric encourages listening, which would allow people to really pay attention and gain respect for the other speaker, while being able to form a reasonable response.
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Kyra K
9/7/2017 10:06:33 am
I do agree with Mr. Heinrich that rhetoric should be taught more to high school and college students. It opens the mind to create a more strong, credible, interesting piece of writing/essay and actually teaches the reader and writer better ways to "argue" with someone on points. It emphasizes your words and makes a more clearer argument and also creates a less heated atmosphere around the two people arguing.
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CJ Arciaga
9/7/2017 02:57:02 pm
I found skyping with Jay Heinrichs was very interesting and new. To be honest, reading his book and skyping with him open my eyes and how much there is to argument. I do argee that rhetorical skills should be taught more in schools not just in the United States but also the entire world. In this day of age, there's more violence and fights than compromises and the world is divided. People who argues on conversial subjects usually end up with fights and violences. If they have knowledge of rhetoric, it will help them to listen, respect each other, and able to create a compromise.
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Owen
9/7/2017 03:58:05 pm
During the discussion he said that he litesens to rap music. I thought that was very surprising because I wouldn't thank that he would like rap music. He was naming some of his favorites and I was very surprised that he new the most recent popular rappers. It caught me off guard.
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Jeff Montinar
9/7/2017 04:11:32 pm
The most interesting comment I found when we Skyped Mr. Heinricks was that rhetoric is everywhere and in everything. For example, him and I were discussing Straight Outta Compton the movie and N.W.A's music because of my Straight Outta Ville shirt that I mistakenly wore. He said music is a form of argument that sometimes taps into the emotional side, pathos, to either explain or educate the listener. N.W.A did exactly that by using their platform to produce gangsta rap as an outlet to conversate about their political views to their daily struggle of being black in America.
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Natalie Newland
9/8/2017 02:12:34 pm
Before doing the summer assignment, I thought arguing and fighting went hand in hand. I didn't realize the vast differences between the two, and how winning an argument is so much better than winning a fight. I liked the chapters on the pathos side of things, and how you can appeal to your audience's emotional side to get a reaction out of them. Emotions are powerful things, and I liked how Heinrichs taught me how to wield them to my advantage.
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Hayley Robinson
9/8/2017 03:53:16 pm
I too agree with Heinrich when he says that rhetoric should be taught in a wider environment than what it is now. I see the world differently than I used to with only three weeks into the school year. With the acknowledgement of rhetoric, my mind is more open to different opinions and lifestyles. Instead of standing firm in my belief, I am more lenient and try to see things from different point of views. Everyone should have an opportunity to learn this tool, in fact I believe everyone needs to learn it. The world would be very, very different if everyone knew how to use the rhetoric tools that Heinrich's book taught me, but that doesn't mean it would be a bad thing.
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Josué Arrucha
9/8/2017 06:50:19 pm
Mr. Heinrich's answer to Morgan's question about how effective rhetoric would become if it were to be understood and utilized by everyone really stood out to me. While I hadn't thought about this scenario, it seemed like a neat "what if" question. I also admired his answer, while I did expect a common optimistic, "Oh that would be great and we could socialize better and never have feuds ever again with one another!" He instead gave a straight answer from a realistic point of view.
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Gwenith Martz
9/8/2017 07:42:06 pm
During our Skype chat with Mr. Heinrich I found his reply to the question of " Do you think that different types of argumentative tools work better for certain genders? " to be very interesting. He said that women have always had the upper hand with persuasion and men have always had a stern leader type tone. He also said that he believes that all types of tools for arguing are somewhat even to both genders. He had a very good answer to that question and it gave me a little bit of a topic to think about for his next book.
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Natalie Linton
9/8/2017 08:33:15 pm
During the Skype interview with Jay Heinrichs, the most interesting thing that he stated was that rhetoric can be both born with and taught. We all have a natural ability to persuade, whether that be one technique over others or simply using pathos. He also stated that as a younger boy, he thinks he "fought" more with individuals of whom dissagreed with him, rather than "argued" with them using manipulation skills. Both of these comments kind of go hand and hand in my mind. Perhaps at a younger age, emotional persuasion was the other useful and effective method for him. As he grew up and encountered more disagreements, he learned and studied other tips to persuade an audience. While reading "Thank You For Arguing", I often asked myself if I was even capable of doing half of the techniques he describes in the novel. After the interview, it clarified that rhetoric isn't off limits to anyone.
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Georgia Wathen
9/8/2017 08:48:50 pm
People, whether they are aware of it or not, argue constantly. "Thank You For Arguing" makes individuals realize how often they argue and learn many new, effective ways of doing so in their everyday lives. There are more ways of arguing then one person may expect. The book our class read is something anyone could enjoy and can learn a lot of new information on rhetoric as a result.
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Lexiey Maynard
9/9/2017 02:06:08 pm
I agree with what jay Heinrichs said about how argument/ rhetoric should be taught more widely in schools, colleges. The book itself really helped me open up my mind about things and taking charge in arguments and being more informed on persuasion and ad techniques. When I would talk about a topic many times it would end in an argument but now I understand that u may feel good after the argument but that doesnt help you win. His book was very informative and I think should be taught more often because its a good tool to have.
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Nicolas Morel
9/10/2017 03:50:20 pm
The discussion was very intriguing to me. I loved how cultured he is and his ability to connect with those who he is speaking to. He doesn't try to put up a front of someone he is not and expresses himself very well. He demonstrates how rhetoric can help to connect with others despite differences. He shows this by demonstrating his knowledge of rap music, different languages, different cultures, and the differences between sexes. It was a very eye opening Skype session.
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Sierra
9/10/2017 09:49:32 pm
During our Skype session with Jay Heinrich, I found that the most interesting thing he talked about was his 35th anniversary. The whole story showed how rhetoric can work for anyone. He has studied rhetoric and how to use it for years now, so he should be an expert on it. Even with that prior knowledge, his wife still got what she wanted out of their anniversary, which I found pretty funny.
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emma from oklahoma
3/28/2018 07:28:35 am
Hello I find this intersting and also how do I leave this fun little website
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